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“The World’s Greatest Comic Magazine!” Fantastic Four No. 131

25 Saturday May 2024

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Fantastic Four 131
“Revolt in Paradise!”
Published Nov. 1972
Writer: Roy Thomas
Pencils: Ross Andru
Inks: Joe Sinnott
Letters: John Costanza
Colors: Petra Goldberg
Editor: Thomas
Cover: Jim Steranko and Sinnott

Synopsis

The Human Torch discovers his erstwhile girlfriend Crystal in a romance with the ex-Avenger Quicksilver. Before they can hash it out, the Inhuman stronghold of Attilan is rocked by tremors, and the Alpha Primatives, a race of worker drones, revolt against their overlords.

What’s going on here?

This is another interesting issue. The big development, and one I genuinely didn’t expect, is the reveal of Crystal and Quicksilver’s relationship. Of course, I knew it was coming at some point—their marriage was a major fixture of Marvel comics in the 80s— but since Roy left no clues that this was impending, it took me by surprise (more on this later).

This issue is also notable in that it’s penciled by Ross Andru, who is amazingly just the fourth artist to pencil the FF in 131 issues (after Jack Kirby, John Romita and John Buscema). Andru had been around a long time at this point — his first credits were in 1951, and I think it’s fair to say he’s a bit of a journeyman, although he would go on to have a long and distinguished run on Amazing Spider-Man. This is the only issue of the FF he drew, and was a fill-in issue. Big John was back in the saddle by the next issue (although 133 is also a fill-in). Also, note that is the second of three Steranko covers.


What I liked

The Johnny /Crystal / Quicksilver love triangle is a fun plot twist that accomplishes a couple of things. One, it ties the FF more closely to the rest of the Marvel Universe. Save for about 20 issues in the mid 1960s, when almost every Marvel hero made a guest appearance in the Fantastic Four, the FF have been relatively isolated from other Marvel heroes. The appearance of Quicksilver is a reminder they inhabit the same universe as the Avengers (and the X-Men), and it makes sense that it’s Roy Thomas who cross-pollinated these comics, since at this point he had written all three.

Two, it helps establish the template of Johnny Storm as forever unlucky in love. Crystal may be Johnny’s first romance that fizzled (not counting high school crush Dorrie Evans) but she’s far from the last. Others love interests have included Frankie Raye (who became Nova), Lyja the Skrull (whom he thought was Alicia Masters), Namorita, and most recently Sky, the winged alien. After 60 years, his romantic woes have now become such a part of his character that I wonder if any writer would be willing to have him permanently settle down.

What I didn’t like


While the Crystal / Pietro relationship is a welcome addition, as far as I can tell, it comes out of nowhere. This comic refers to Avengers 104, as if it explains the beginning of the relationship, but Crystal does not appear there. In that comic, Quicksilver battles a Sentinel while attempting to rescue his sister, the Scarlet Witch, and is left injured in the Sentinels’ lair by the other Avengers , who don’t know he’s there.

An end note promises that readers will learn his fate in the next issue, but Avengers 105 is Steve Englehart’s first issue, and he takes the comic off in another direction. It’s not until FF 131, which was published five months later, that Crystal’s rescue of Pietro is shown (and is described as a random event).

My guess is that Thomas wanted to resolve his Pietro arc, and saw an opportunity to make life interesting for Johnny at the same time. But if his appearance in this issue surprised me, I can only imagine how FF readers on 1972 must have felt.


Thomas’s handling of the Alpha Primatives is a bit peculiar, too. It’s pretty clear they are subjugated race who live underground and serve as slaves to their Inhuman masters. When they revolt, it’s not depicted as a heroic uprising, but more like an insurrection that needs to be put down. That dynamic is a pretty strong contrast to issue 119, where Thomas very successfully wrote about he evils of apartheid. We’ll see how he handles the Alpha primitives revolt in the next issue.

Anything else

Not one but two letters from future comic writers in this issue: Mike W. Barr (Camelot 3000, Batman and the Outsiders, among others) and Charles “Chuck” Dixon (Punisher, Detective Comics, among others).



Overall

An excellent comic with some issues.

“The World’s Greatest Comic Magazine!” Fantastic Four No. 130

18 Saturday May 2024

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Fantastic Four 130
“Battleground: The Baxter Building!”
Published Oct. 1972
Writer: Roy Thomas
Pencils: John Buscema
Inks: Joe Sinnott
Letters: Artie Simek
Colors: Petra Goldberg
Editor: Thomas
Cover: Jim Steranko and Sinnott

Synopsis

After subduing the Thing and Meduasa, the Frightful Four—reconstituted with Thundra—take on the rest of the Fantastic Four, minus the Human Torch, in the Baxter Building and are saved only by the awakening of Franklin’s powers. In the aftermath, Sue declares she is leaving the team. Meanwhile, in the Himalayas, the Torch confronts the Inhumans, where a secret concerning Crystal is revealed to him.


What’s going on here?

This is a jam-packed issue, with big developments in the story, and some smaller ones outside it. From an amateur-comic-historian’s perspective, it’s notable for being the first Fantastic Four issue to credit a colorist, in this case, Petra Goldberg.

The history of comic book coloring is complicated, and the technology evolves dramatically over time. But my understanding is that in the 60s, 70s and 80s, the colorist would identify what colors were needed (always a combination of cyan, magenta, yellow and black) and where they would go. They would make notes on the art (or actually color copies of the pages) that would then be used by a color separator at the printer as a guide. Because of the limitations of the process—at most, only 64 possible colors are available—and because the colorist didn’t directly work on the art like a penciler and inker, it seems they were viewed less like artists and more like technicians. Hence, they were not credited. (A pretty good explanation of all this can be found in this Comic Tropes video).

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that this changed soon after Roy Thomas became editor. Thomas also instituted an “editor” credit—here used for himself—and seemed more interested than Stan Lee in assigning proper credit where it was due (a longtime issue with Stan that we know came to haunt him).

Recall, the first issues of the Fantastic Four had no credits all, just the signatures of Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. And when credits first appeared, they were very scant and presented almost as an after thought (this is FF 10):

By FF 130, the credits for all the main creators were in place and they pretty much remained this way for decades. Note Stan Lee’s presenting credit is now his signature. That began with the previous month’s issues, and I neglected to mention it.


Also notable is that Jim Steranko penciled the cover for this issue (which is probably why the Sandman looks so much like Nick Fury). I’m not sure it’s a particularly great cover, but anything by Steranko is worth paying attention to. This is the first of three covers he did for the Fantastic Four, and are the only things he ever did with the FF during his short career.

What I liked

A big—but not the biggest—in-comic event in FF 130 is Sue’s decision to leave the team. This has been brewing for a few issues, and through Thomas’s writing she has voiced her displeasure with Reed and his constant demands that she be sidelined to look after Franklin.

Here, she again raises those objections and he again tries to shut her down:


It finally boils over in the last page, featuring more jerk-like behavior from Reed:


Obviously, this doesn’t stick and she eventually returns. But her departure feels like a significant milestone in the development of Sue’s character, and, perhaps, in Thomas’s repudiation of the status quo he inherited from Stan. Thomas has been writing Reed pretty much the same way Stan and Jack did for a decade, but only under Thomas did Sue finally say, enough.

Speaking of gender dynamics, I also liked how Thomas played with cliches and stereotypes through Thundra, the Femizon from another dimension where women dominate men. Here, she picks up Ben like a doll:


Or here, where she refers to “men and children:”


Thomas also created an interesting and suspenseful sidebar with the Human Torch and Crystal. I legitimately have no idea what he sees here (we have to wait until next issue):


The Inhuman subplot is another example of Thomas’s skill as a storyteller. There’s an awful lot going in in the main plot, yet he’s able to jump out and devote a few meaningful pages to the Johnny/Crystal dynamic that builds character and sets up future arcs, all without distracting from the bigger story. Further evidence that the FF is in very good hands.

Oh, and I would remiss if I didn’t point out this jaw-dropping splash page from Big John. It doesn’t have a big impact on the plot, but it seems like it’s a fun opportunity for him to flex his Kirby muscles.


What I didn’t like

The biggest in-story development in FF 130 is the awakening of Franklin’s powers. Although hinted at a few issues ago, this is the first real manifestation of them.

In the bounds of this issue, it’s fine and I imagine for readers at the time, it must have been pretty cool. But it opened the door for decades of stories about Franklin’s powers that, on the whole, have been unsatisfying, confusing and distracting. No two writers seem to agree what to do with Franklin, and while some have embraced him as a mutant with god-like powers—Jonathan Hickman had him creating whole universes—others would be happier if he was just a kid. Dan Slott depowered him and Ryan North has a goofy retcon that has him using his powers one day a year.

I am sure Thomas didn’t know the can of worms he was opening up here, but the does-he -or doesn’t-he nature of Franklin’s powers been a perennially frustrating aspect of the Fantastic Four

Also, thumbs down for the story title—”Battleground: Baxter Building”—a combination of words which has been used probably a dozen times.

Anything else?

Some more ads for cool toys:


Overall

An excellent comic. Roy’s best to date.

“The World’s Greatest Comic Magazine!” Fantastic Four No. 129

11 Saturday May 2024

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Fantastic Four 129
“The Frightful Four .. Plus One!”
Published Sept. 1972
Writer: Roy Thomas
Pencils: John Buscema
Inks: Joe Sinnott
Letters: Artie Simek
Editor: Thomas
Cover: Buscema and Frank Giacoia

Synopsis

Intending to marry Crystal, the Human Torch leaves the team for the Great Refuge and is captured by Inhumans. Meanwhile, The Thing is ambushed by the Frightful Four and while one-time member Medusa comes to his aid, Thundra, a new member, attacks.


What’s going on here

Fantastic Four 129 is probably most notable for the introduction of Thundra, the powerful, seven-foot warrior from an alternate Earrh called Femizonia. As a character she’s part Wonder Woman, part Big Barda and part pandering to the women’s liberation movement of the 1970s. As befits Thomas, her backstory is long and elaborate, and will unspool over the next few years as she becomes a semi-regular character in the Fantastic Four during this era. More recently she goes on to have a big role in the Hulk.

From a design perspective, she’s pretty cool looking and her presence adds an interesting dimension to the FF, where gender norms have been enforced by the very macho male members and the very feminine Sue and Crystal.


Speaking of Sue, her liberation under Thomas’s writing is becoming more pronounced. In two sequences, she puts Reed in his place in a way that would been unheard of in a Stan Lee-written book.

Here, she lets Johnny escape the team to join Crystal:

(I love the look on Reed’s face)

And here, she lets Reed knows what she thinks of his priorities while Ben looks on in amazement:


What I liked

I don’t pay Joe Sinnott’s inks enough attention and I should. I love this panel, which is obviously enhanced by the colors (at this point Marvel wasn’t naming colorists so I have no one to credit).


And this Buscema panel is wonderfully Kirby-esque:


What I didn’t like

Ben’s fight with the Frightful Four felt a bit too by-the-numbers, and the appearance of Medusa didn’t make much sense (and is not explained). Is it just a coincidence a former member of the Frightful For shows up just when Ben needs her help to fight them? Is her appearance related to Johnny’s trip to the Inhumans? Who can say?

Anything else?

The letters page is devoted entirely to one very long, tortured letter summing up the Stan Lee ear, by a writer named Tim Allen. Unclear if it’s the Tool Time guy.


Overall

Another solid effort from Roy, John and Joe.

“The World’s Greatest Comic Magazine!” Fantastic Four No. 128

05 Sunday May 2024

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Fantastic Four 128
“Death in a Dark and Lonely Place!”
Published Aug. 1972
Writer: Roy Thomas
Pencils: John Buscema
Inks: Joe Sinnott
Letters: Artie Simek
Editor: Thomas
Cover: Buscema and Sinnott

Synopsis

After Mr. Fantastic realizes the monster attacking the team is actually the Thing, whose appearance was temporarily transformed, the team regroups to confront the Mole Man, only to be captured and apparently defeated. But the Mole Man is betrayed by his erstwhile lover, Kala, and the team is able to escape his underground kingdom.


What’s going on here?

This is solid follow-up and conclusion to the story Thomas launched in the previous issue, and augers well for the rest of his run on the comic. The story has a fun and surprising twists, it’s well paced and there’s some nice characterization. No big developments, but that’s OK.

What distinguishes FF 128 isn’t the story but an insert—four pages of pinups on glossy paper (the same as used for the cover) drawn and by John Buscema (the inker is uncredited but it looks like Sinnott to me). They’re not included the online version of the comic, so I’ve photographed them:


As a kid reading the FF in 1972, I would have been pretty jazzed to see these in the middle of an otherwise ordinary comic. As a reader in 2024, they’re an interesting snapshot into who and what Marvel thought was important to depict. Leaving aside the decision not to include the FF, there’s no Agatha Harkness or Franklin, or Black Panther or Wyatt Wingfoot. The Mole Man and Frightful Four get prominent billing, but that could be because they’re appearing in this issue (Moley) or nest issue (the Frightful Four).

On the letter page, an editor’s note explains the pinups are to make up for raising the price of the comic to 20 cents, although the price hike took place a year earlier. There’s a convoluted explanation involving Nixon, but read for yourself:


What I liked

Roy does a nice job with interactions between our lead characters, including this revealing exchange between Ben and Sue:


Or this, between Sue and Reed, which continues their debate about Sue’s role on the team that started last issue:


I also liked the plot twist toward the end. It wasn’t too surprising that the beautiful and evil Kala would turn against the Mole Man in favor of handsome Tyrannus (a long-lived Roman Emperor trapped underground and who appeared as the Mole Man’s slave briefly last issue). It was surprising, however, when Tyrannus in turn double crossed Kala, and giving the Mole Man reason to free the FF.


That twist, of course, leave the Mole Man jilted at the altar, setting up this satisfying and sympathetic ending sequence.


In the current run of the Fantastic Four, writer Ryan North has Reed deploying his stretching powers in novel (and occasionally grotesque) ways. But as we learn in FF 128, creative used of Reed’s powers are not new. (Also interesting is Reed’s dialogue throughout the comics – Roy has definitely loosened him up).


What I didn’t like

If Roy has a weakness, it’s a tendency to lapse into purple prose, as he does here in this otherwise cool looking flashback splash page. Pro tip: Avoid writing in the second person if at all possible.


Anything else?

Some more intriguing ads. The fake beard-and-mustache kit—from the Masculiner Co., no less!—is particularly fascinating. Apparently you could mail in a sample of your own hair and they would match the color. Did anyone ever do that?


Overall

An excellent comic.

“The World’s Greatest Comic Magazine!” Fantastic Four No. 127

28 Sunday Apr 2024

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Fantastic Four 127
“Where the Sun Dares Not Shine!”
Published July 1972
Writer: Roy Thomas
Penciler: John Buscema
Inker: Joe Sinnott
Letterer: Artie Simek
Editor: Thomas
Cover: Buscema and Sinnott

Synopsis

In pursuit of a cure for Alicia Masters’s blindness, the Thing enters the subterranean world of the Mole Man, where he encounters Kala, an Atlantean princess and the Mole Man’s paramour. They capture Ben, and change his appearance into that of a hairy monster, leading the rest of the Fantastic Four to attack him.


What’s going on here

Even though Fantastic Four 127 is technically Roy Thomas’s third as writer, it feels like the first issue where he really seizes the reins and makes it his own. It’s full of Thomas-ian flourishes—the purple prose with its highfalutin’ references to ancient Greece, the call-backs to obscure older comics (in this case, Tales of Suspense 43), the sometimes excruciating interior monologues.

It’s also a pretty good story. On a mission to help Alicia, Ben is lured into complacency by the mysterious Kala, and is blindsided by her and the Mole Man. Thomas also ratchets up the stakes by having the Mole Man and Kala launch a plot against the surface world. His version of the Mole Man isn’t just a misunderstood outcast, but a truly evil villain who plans to kill 3 billion surface dwellers. The story is well paced, contains some fun surprises and ends with a satisfying cliff hanger.


What I liked

After showing some growth as a character over the past few years, Sue backslid into her whimpering helpmate status in Stan’s most recent run, as he (via Reed) sidelined her to protect Franklin. Here, Roy seems to be making a statement about Sue’s role on the team:


This is a great sequence from Big John:


There are also a lot of fun touches throughout the comic, such as this byplay in the editor’s notes between Roy and Stan en français.

Along with a sweet scene of domestic bliss, there is some clever dialogue from Reed here:

And it’s been while since we heard these magic words:


What I didn’t like

As mentioned above, Roy has a predilection toward pompous verbosity and anguished interior monologues. We get all of that and more here:


Overall

A promising start to the Thomas era.

“The World’s Greatest Comic Magazine!” Fantastic Four No. 126

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Fantastic Four 126
“The Way It Began!”
Published June 1972
Writer: Roy Thomas
Pencils: John Buscema
Inks: Joe Sinnott
Letters: John Costanza
Editor: Thomas
Cover: Buscema and Sinnott

Synopsis

After squabbling with the Human Torch, the Thing uses a thought projector invented by Mr. Fantastic to revisit the origins of the Fantastic Four, and ends up resolved to force the Mole Man —the first villain they fought—to give sight to his blind girlfriend, Alicia Masters.


What’s going on here?

This is an interesting issue, for a few reasons. It’s the first issue after Stan Lee’s official departure from the FF—an occasion marked both in the Bullpen Bulletins and in a separate note on the letter’s page—and Roy Thomas’s first after officially taking the helm (although he wrote FF 119). Stan and Roy use the change as an opportunity to retell the origin of the Fantastic Four, in the longest re-cap of their origin to date. For modern readers, it might seem like a waste of an issue but we’re used to the immediate availability of back issues, either through reprints or online. New Fantastic Four readers in the early 1970s had fewer options to read FF 1 (although it had been reprinted in a few annuals by this point) and after a decade of comics, it made sense to reset the origin.

It also allows John Buscema a chance to put his spin on Jack Kirby’s classic story. He’s pretty faithful to the original, although there are a few tweaks, like modernizing Sue’s haircut.

Here is Jack’s:

And here’s Big John’s version of the same scene:

Probably the biggest difference is in how Buscema draws Ben, updating his original, lumpy look to the more familiar rocky version. Again, here’s FF 1:

And FF 126:

Roy also tweaks the dialogue a bit to make Ben’s style of speech more consistent with what we’re used to, but by and large it’s pretty similar.

Along with the recap of the origin (and both the original and a subsequent battle with the Mole Man, setting the stage for Ben’s quest), the issue also strikes a lot of familiar notes that seem designed reestablish the FF’s status quo. There’s a Ben and Johnny fight, which was once almost a mandatory feature. There’s an appearance from Alicia, and a reminder she’s blind. There’s Reed and Sue wondering about their future with the team now that they have a child. In all, it reads like jumping off place for new readers, and a new writer.

A few other items of note:

* The credits now say “Stan Lee presents” and Roy is credited as both writer and editor.
* The cover now says “The World’s Greatest Comix Magazine!” I don’t know the basis for the change, and it lasted only until issue 131, but it’s a bit odd.
* I realize I never addressed the change in the logo, which happened in issue 119. Just another sign of the changin’ times. Marvel will use this logo until issue 160 and doesn’t return to the classic ’60s logo until issue 218 (although it’s used for annuals).

Here is the note introducing Roy as writer on the letter page:


What I liked

I generally liked Buscema’s recap of the origin, and particularly his take on Jack’s classic cover for FF 1. That cover has been the subject of many homages over the years (some of which I get into in my recap of that issue here) and I assume this is the first. There is still no explanation of who tied up Reed. There is also a great splash page (seen above).

What I didn’t like

While it’s an interesting issue, I’m not sure it’s a particularly good issue. Roy tries to weave the lengthy flashback into the story, but it’s not really coherent, and the thought projector as a plot device feels unnecessary and clumsy. Leaping ahead from the FF’s first battle with the Moleman to one that took places in issues 88 and 89 also feels awkward and manufactured to set up the next issue.

Also, it’s not really clear Roy has a grasp on Ben’s character, as evidenced by this sequence:

(who is Godfrey?)

Anything else?

Ads for some neat-o toys in this issue:


Overall

An issue probably of more value to readers in 1972 than today

“The World’s Greatest Comic Magazine!” Fantastic Four No. 119

03 Sunday Mar 2024

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Fantastic Four 119
“Three Stood Together!”
Published: November 1971
Writer: Roy Thomas
Pencils: John Buscema
Inks: Joe Sinnott
Letters: Artie Simek
Editor: Stan Lee
Cover: Buscema and Sinnott

Synopsis

The Thing and Human Torch rescue the Black Panther from a white supremacist prison before all three tangle with Klaw.


What’s going on here?

This is an interesting issue, for a few, interrelated reasons. The main development is that it’s Roy Thomas’s first time writing the FF. By this point in his career, Thomas had been writing a range of Marvel comics, including the X-Men and Avengers, and was Stan’s right-hand man in many ways. He goes on to have his own run on the Fantastic Four but this was a standalone issue for him.

Thomas’s story is surprisingly topical, as Ben and Johnny are summoned to “Rudyarda”—perhaps named after Rudyard Kipling?—a white-supremacist nation bordering Wakanda and clearly modeled after South Africa. Ben and Johnny are offended by the country’s official racism, and it’s brought up several times over the course of the story.

Speaking of current events, this issue also marks a name change for the Black Panther to “the Black Leopard,” specifically to avoid confusion with the activist group in the US. It didn’t last long.

What I liked

There’s a gritty, contemporary quality to the story that’s unusual in the FF, and it’s either to Stan’s credit that he allowed Thomas to take the comic in a new direction—much as he did with Archie Goodwin last issue—or he simply wasn’t paying attention. Either way, it’s feels fresh, which is a good thing after a decade of FF comics.


What I didn’t like

Ben and Johnny take a commercial jet to Rudyarda, which doesn’t make a lot of sense given the fleet at the FF’s disposal, except it sets up a skyjacking scene. The sequence doesn’t add anything to the story—although it allows Thomas to slip in another topical reference—and it takes up space that could be better used elsewhere.

Those two pages could have been used, for example, to give the climactic fight with Klaw some breathing room. As printed, Buscema crammed 18 panels into two facing pages, creating a visual overload that is begging for more space.

The story also opens with yet another silly fight between Ben and Johnny, and ends with the introduction of this monstrosity, which is clearly paving the way for the dreaded H.E.R.B.I.E. Thankfully, A.U.N.T.I.E. only appears in this one issue. I wish I could say the same about H.E.R.B.I.E.


Also, that cover is terrible. Yuck.

Anything else?

This seems to be a goof, either on the part of Thomas’s script or Simek’s lettering. But it’s pretty clear from the story these thugs are blood enemies of Wakanda, not blood brothers.


Overall

Definitely an interesting comic book.

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